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danger of going off the fiscal cliff. >> we are not going to kick the can down the road. we're going to finalize this this year. this is no time for delay. the american people want us to avoid the fiscal cliff with a balanced approach. liz: he said, he said. good afternoon, everybody. i am liz claman, "countdown to the closing bell" starts right now. you heard it from the horses mouth. and it has gyrated the market. john boehner said no substantial progress on fiscal cliff debt deal while harry reid insists we democrats are on track and will finalize it this year. even chuck schumer weighed in saying progress is being made on the hill and the next is a taste oversensitive. take a look at the intraday, you can see how it was jerked around today. right around 11:30 a.m., speaker john maye -- john boehner spoke. the buyers poured in, the short time later chuck schumer came in. now we are trading near the highs of the day. the dow jones dust they stop 77 points, 45 to the upside. all 10 s. and p. sectors are jumping with technologies leading the way. research in motion a big winner. can
republicans are not going to have to vote for them to go up. we'll go off the fiscal cliff, down the fiscal slope. yes i think it will happen because it is the one way republicans can, without violating the pledge, and offending the grand inquisitor grover norquist, it's the one way they can let this happen. >> and, in fact, you know, what could happen, you can imagine a scenario where you go off the cliff on taxes, rates go up for everybody, you then vote to restore the rates for the vast majority of taxpayers, 98%, and further it is even conceivable you negotiate down the top rates in the level under bill clinton a little bit by putting in the pot offsetting deductions for credits which would allow republicans to claim some sort of victory as well. that could be a scenario where you have a consensus on the tax run. >> let's run all of this by representative xavier becerra of california. he's joining us now. nice to see you, sir 367 appreciate your time. what is really the white house dismiss kind of out of hand i mean i don't have the exact number of minutes that they had this republican
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though if the market saw there was at least a down payment on the fiscal cliff, something agreed to be picked up after the first of the year, i think equity prices would be eleased. if we see more polarization leading into the end of the year without any sign of anything getting done, i think that would weigh on equity prices. tracy: talk about what we should be doing because i think we're all kind of the notion this will not happen until december 31st, what could we do before that? should i move maybe my dividend paying stocks into my retirement account? >> you can do that under subject of limitations how much you can put into a retirement account in any given year and predicated whether you work for employer or are self-employed. that is one avenue, if you will of sheltering those growth stocks from taxation at some later point. it isn't going to do much to help you this year, in order to do that you would have to sell them and move the cash into the tax sheltered vehicle. but that said, i think it is prudent anytime to consider where you have sizable capital gains, taking some
that it goes down the fiscal cliff monday. every day is fiscal cliff tuesday, wednesday, thursday. you get the picture. anyway, you should pull the trigger here to buy it here if the fiscal cliff does what i'm afraid of. brown foreman reports wednesday. this is an interesting one. why? because goldman downgraded it to sell. just last night. i've seen this movie. they were wrong last time. they'll be wrong again. i'm going to bet them a bottle of jack daniels that will be the case. in fact i'll bet them a case of jack daniels that will be the case. if they're close, as we told you we like asina. and i would be willing to be a buyer of that niche retailer ahead of this quarter because of some merger gains i think we'll hear about. but again only on news of setbacks to the fiscal cliff talks. we're not going to go in and buy anything these days. you'll get some representative congressman, senator come on say you stupid idiot. you bought stock and i'm talking on a microphone. i'm sending the stock market down because there's no progress. we have not one but two huge analyst days next week. onl
do go over the fiscal cliff that will take the whole market down, so you put this on a shopping list that could give you a terrific entry point. i think the cycle is so darn strong, it can trump the ills of the fiscal cliff, at least once it's sorted out. ultimately the cliff will be sorted out. of the three housing-related ipos, you need to be careful with zillow and trulia, the only one i will endorse is real ogy, and only if it comes down. how about michael in california, please? michael. >> caller: boo-yah to you, jim. with a solid dividend that pays monthly at almost a 16% yield, the current valuation a dollar benine book value, isn't a.r.r. a great value? >> you know what? i have thought it was. this is another one of those real estate mortgages reits, that i have somewhat been mystified about the price performance. someone asked about this on the street, and i said i think it should be doing better. i agree, i think it's an okay buy. john in oregon, please. >> caller: boo-yah, jimmy, how are you? >> boo-yah back at you. >> caller: residential 4078 builders, i bought in about s
it carefully risk includes possible lossf principal. gerri: is the writing on the rall for the fiscal cliff gerri: we are dangling over the fiscal cliff. but washington is at a standstill. although the president is refusing to sit down with republicans, he did talk to speaker john boehner this afternoon, and the white house is talking to federal agencies, warning them to get ready to go over the cliff. with more on this, congressman tom mcclintock of california. a member of the budget committee. if you for joining us today. you know, we heard about this telephone call between speaker boehner and the president. you think anything will come of that? >> the president has been very clear. he is hell-bent to raise taxes massively on those very wealthy folks made making over $250,000. bearer 80% of small businesses, in and exactly the time when we are depending on them to create two thirds of the new jobs in our country desperately needs. gerri: the republicans are in the way of a settlement. i want to hear what he said today. here is the president. >> we can probably solve this in a week. it is
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't they know about the fiscal cliff? >> they look to be down 10%. >> we'll watch it. as people know in this market, many times the stock price has been going up. we'll keep an eye on this. it may be throwing people. what does it say about copper overall and the price of the metal. >> i worry, by the way, watch energy 21. this is exxi. another company that bought old properties. one of the things that's happening that's driving this, okay, is that there's new technology. american technology that's able to access oil that the big guys have given up on whether it be exxon given up on energy 21 has or bp and it turns out that these fines may have been bigger so pxp takes advantage of the fact there's new technology. pxp is a deal maker but ready to trade because capital gains taxes are going up. could be a fiscal cliff. the gulf is hotter than it's ever been even a few years ago it was ice cold. >> big story in the journal about exploration in this country. production 15-year high. brand new chapter here. look at the bottom of your screen. citigroup is cutting 11,000 jobs. we want to ge
. connell: sending the two-party over the fiscal cliff. a number of conservatives that say the president is getting offered too much. dagen: walt has his review. there are some things he says you need to know about. the u.s. economy added 111,000 private sector jobs according to adp. a bit weaker than expected. because of impacts from hurricane sandy. the bank saying it is looking for ways to cut expenses. those cuts amount to 4% of the companies workforce and is estimated to save $1.1 billion every year. stocks now and every 15 minutes. nicole petallides. nicole: we are looking at a market that is to the downside. let's take a look at citigroup. it is about 4% of the workforce. citigroup is higher. it has had an up arrow throughout the day today. we saw the dow jones industrials this week to the downside. we had two consecutive days in selling. down arrows for the nasdaq. down 1.1%. connell: breaking news out of washington. earlier, speaker boehner speaking about the fiscal cliff. now it is president obama. let's listen. >> we have emerged not yet where we need to be, but we certainly h
such barbed words and occurred before treasury secretary tim geithner laid down this harsh fiscal cliff marker. >> if the administration, are they prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. no prospect or agreement that doesn't involve those rates going on on the top 2%. remember, only 2%. >> reporter: that danger? not enough to keep congress in session. it's all right quit for the week. most lawmakers assume correctly there are bit players until there's a deal. that looks more complicated until mr. obama demanded republicans raise the debt ceiling this month without any spending cut strings attached. >> if congress in any way suggests they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation, i will not play that game. because we've got to break that habit before it starts. >> reporter: the president sees the fiscal cliff showdown as an opportunity to break that linkage for good. republicans say they will not increase the debt ceiling now $16 trillion and due to expire in f
. >> there you go. it's my fiscal cliff helmet down here in washington. >> oh, understood. >> i love it. let's go through the list. not surprising who is number one? >> a re-elected barack obama back at number one. two years ago we had hu jintao so it is not automatic the president is at the top but with a kind of mini mandate, four more years and the defacto leader of the free world it is a pretty easy selection of number one. >> angela merkel number two. easy to understand. >> europe goes through germany and germany goes through merkel. >> let's talk about vladimir putin coming in at number three. >> yes. he has been on the list even when he wasn't president because we all know who was still running the show then. he's back up there with a bullet. he's been as high as two on this list. here is somebody who has a u.n. security council permanency, controls a huge oil and gas reserve, has a nuclear tipped army and wields his power very effectively. >> and loves to show his muscles. many times as possible. >> powerful in many ways. that's right. >> of late bill gates has been the rodney dangerfield
down. >> are you worried about the fiscal cliff? how is business going? you're an entrepreneur in your own right. i want to talk to you about business, but how you preparing for the cliff? >> well, there's no way one can be preparing. you have to be think about uncertainty as you make your investment decision. in terms of fiscal policy, obviously there's a great goal between the republicans and the democrats. at least there's a bit of talk on the table now. hopefully that can start to narrow. we're certainly still living in uncertain times. we're cognizant of that as we inves invest. >> as a small business owner, how would you characterize business right now? your jewelry line, small business activities pmplg. >> i've had the good fortune of creating a fashion brand. i have jewelry, shoes, handbags, et cetera. i found a niche within the market hthat's looking for affordable price points. it's really been resonating very well. >> sounds like you're on style, actually. ivanka, good to have you on the program. we look forward to you ringing the bell and lighting the christmas tree out her
and your meeting and really zero in on the fiscal cliff. before we do that, i want to get to the situation around hewlett-packard and autonomy. of course, hp taking a massive write down on the acquisition of autonomy. ceo meg whitman throwing deloitte under the bus in some sense because the firm was among those charged with examining the books before the deal. what can you tell us about what you did in terms of overseeing the books at autonomy and what do you say now that she's charging this fraud? >> sure, maria. unfortunately for us, that matter has been turn the over to investigation and the authorities. believe it or not, that's one of the things i'm not on the hot seat about. that's part of the u.k. member firm. >> of course, this is an issue at the form. it's a big deal. >> it's important to us. unfortunately, we can't comment on that. our member firm has put out a statement. we believe we held up to professional standards. >> during that time, there was no questioning on the part of hewlett-packard in terms of saying, hey, did you find anything? it just seems like it came up from no
on the fiscal cliff talks. a lot of analysts have been saying the buyers can start to stiffen at some of these technical levels. gold prices up about 9% so far this year. you could all facilities miner etf's. the gold miners etf, gd x, it is down a hefty 11% for the year. why hasn't it been tracking the price of gold? miners do better when gold prices go up. a lot of analysts are saying add this to your portfolio. this is the largest gold etf that actually buys the metal and stores it. you have been experiencing some of the 10% gains. it subtracts the price of the metal. the miners have not. here are a couple of examples. we will have more in the next hour. very, very low valued right now. very cheap stock. it is down double digits for the year. look at this year to date chart. underperforming the price of gold in a huge way. it's earning power still very strong. the recommendation is a buy rating right now. also, by the way, a new dividend, there are a lot of them here. we will take a look at ones that are valued the cheapest at this point. you can take advantage of the underperforma
. that tells a story right there. if we go across the fiscal cliff, we will have an economic contraction or slow down at best. >> how are things looking right now ahead of the holidays? i'm sure your company is real busy, fedexing gifts. what are your expectations for this holiday season? >> well, you know, the 300,000 wonderful teammates of fedex are working very hard. we publicly forecast a couple weeks ago that on the 10th we would move 19 million shipments through our network. that's up about 11% year over year. e-commerce is causing a significant amount of growth. retail sales are going to be up some place in the 3.5% and 4%. we think absent going over the cliff and absent tax reform, u.s. gdp around 2% next year. worldwide, about 2.5%. >> real quick, we have to ask you your plans. you had said at some point you would leave the ceo role as soon as 2013. is that still in the cards? what's the succession plan? >> well, we have a strong team at fedex that manages the company. the strategic management committee of nine people. lots of people that can do my job without missing a beat. i
the fiscal cliff. consumer confidence has remind high. business confidence is down so the first thing we want to know, that's not the right chart, we want to do on whether or not people heard about the fiscal cliff. have you heard of it? comparing it to some of the other times people asked about news event, there's the trayvon martin shooting in the street, occupy wall street, 82%, facebook ipo 7 %, 70% of the republic has heard it compared to the fiscal crisis in greece, 63% had heard it. in that number 36% had read a lot about it or heard a lot about it. do they believe a solution is likely? our numbers different from other poles. americans are more optic. first of all see what they think, unlikely 73% back in november when we asked about the debt program would there be an agreement, 73% saying that, now 44%. the number you want to think is 4% to 44% thinks a solution is likely. who thinks it's likely, that's interesting and driving this number. he can break it down by party. look at what we find, republicans 52-42, independents, i come back here, there we go, independents 47-32 and it's re
: this is one of those markets with a lot of anticipation. every focuses on the fiscal cliff. tomorrow is the all-important jobs report for a lot of folks have been hearing more economic news which has been more dismal lately. talk about more layoffs they have seen in november. right now the market is not too far off the unchanged line. the acidity holding 1400. the tech of the nasdaq still below 3000. today apple is now moving into the green and that is one of the reasons why it is holding on to a quarter percent gain. apple $700, 705 in september traded as low as 518 today. certainly has been under significant pressure, however people use that as a buying opportunity which is evidenced in the two-day chart. with the fiscal cliff fast approaching, naturally it's about time lawmakers took a long recess. >> they're gone today, but will be back tuesday. it meets with small businesses in their district, they will highlight what they say i see ae small business tax hike president obama is pushing. the president is skipping town also for a quick stop in northern virginia. there he will meet
laid down this harsh fiscal cliff marker. >> is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. again, there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans. remember, it's only 2%. >> reporter: that danger not enough to keep congress in session. it's already quit for the week as most lawmakers assume correctly, they are not players until there's a deal. president obama, in a meeting with some of the country's largest corporations demand that congress raise the debt ceiling without any strings attached. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation, i will not play that game. because we've got to break that habit before it starts. >> reporter: the president sees the fiscal cliff showdown as an opportunity to break that linkage for good. republicans say they will not increase the debt ceiling now $16 trillion and due to expire in februar
? >> yeah, i think while we're now focused on a lot of the down side risks not only from the fiscal cliff but obviously also from the eurozone crisis, we may have overlooked some of these up side potential for next year. so if we get a favorable resolution for the fiscal cliff, i think we can see interest rates move up quite sharply. that would be because expectations for growth could be much higher, so if growth is around the 2% in the first half of the year, we could be haufing over the 3% range in the second half of the rear. that would mean higher interest rates and that could be a very poor result for top quality bonds. >> and when you're talk about interest rates, you're talking about market rates as opposed to fed rates, right? >> the treasury rate, baseline underwhich say corporate bonds move. >> okay. you mentioned how much. so what would be the long term impact of that? >> in a very short amount of time, you could see say the ten year treasury yelled jump from current range of around 1.6% quickly up near 2.7% towards the middle of the year, we saw during previous fed quantitativ
this before, haven't we? what do average americans want to see in a fiscal cliff solution. we've got the exclusive results of our exclusive cnbc all-america economic survey. >>> now to everybody's all-american, sue herera standing by at the nyse. >> you're sweet, ty. thanks. >>> we're a little bit on the downside. we really kind of retraced a little bit on the dow jones industrial average. previous to this we were solidly in the green in all three of the major market indices. the dow now down 14 1/2 points. nasdaq up eight. the s&p is down just a fraction. of course we are also watching apple on the back of yesterday's drop. the stock today is traded up $4.82. that's just under a percentage move to the plus side. it's rebounding, still at bear market territory, however. it has lost over $50 billion in market cap over the past few days alone. our bob pisani joins me here on the floor of the nyse. what are you hearing from traders? the market is drifting a little bit. the focus is on apple. there seems to be a little bit of enthusiasm that it can come back to the up side. >> we were up
about the fiscal cliff not working, it's a mess, it's never going to happen and then you wake up and you're down 15 points monday morning. that's a problem figuring out what to do over the weekend. it could go the other way. generally it's a little bit more on the gloomy side. then you have the problem with december. we're going into the last month. today is the last day of november. people are behind the curve. a shocking number of people i spoke to are below whatever their benchmark is. do you lighten up? do you stay long what you got? it's hard to maneuver around because you need to get outperformance. you need to get alpha in the month of december and a lot of guys that's in short supply right now. there's tough decisions that have to be made in the next couple of days. meantime, we saw futures weaken as we got some of the personal spending and personal income data and personal spending weaker than expected. even accounting for sandy, consumers looking iffy. that's impacting thinking as well. did you see what happened in japan overnight? everybody in japan has become a stimulus guru.
're down to 26 days. bob, can you really make a deal on the fiscal cliff when the negotiation is out in public? do you think we'll get a deal done? that's what everybody wants to know. >> if everybody thinks we ought to get to a deal, we'll get to a deal. the public part of this, obviously, it's different. you got to get 435 people to vote in the house and 100 in the senate. different than getting a board to approve a fundamentally, getting to a deal is about understanding expectations. this public thing is a very good point. it couldn't be different. when two ceos are meeting to do a merger negotiation, one guy shows up in jeans, and the other guy has sunglasses on. they meet at the o'hare hilton. they don't want anybody to know about it. >> wait a minute. let's point this out. go ahead, jeff. >> the risk is taking the worst part of what wall street does, which is this negotiation of do a deal, do a deal, do a deal, do any deal. that's what happened with hp-autonomy. that's what you don't want to take from wall street in this situation. >> let's face it. a ceo is judged on success b
was one of those days, show a lot of americans don't even know about the fiscal cliff. paychecks are going to go down, a million layoffs in the defense industry. no one seems to care right now. it's bad. >> you know what we have going for us? the grid, december 17 announced -- on a seasonal basis, they have reiterated once again that it doesn't have the demand to be sold year round, but starting a week from monday. >> i don't buy that. i think they do it because whenever they have mcrib, they're just fighting traffic for mcrib. there are places in the world where the mcrib is on the menu all the time. in case you're there on your vacation. >> i'm learning here all the time. i'm always learning. >> switch from the bacon cheese-inator. [ bell rings ] . >> celebrating the ground breaking of hotels in new york. we'll be speaking to the ceo in this hour. >> whitehorse is an interesting story. >> white house, delayed over at the nasdaq, the new york stock exchange puts out a release reiterating 16 companies have announced or moved to the big board so for this year. you're starting to wonder who
the fiscal cliff k and -- cliff, and now simpson is silly too. look at simpson dancing. ♪ gerri: so this is simpson with his program, the can kicks back, a play on kicking the can down the road. will this get the bowl down the field? >> what people are not notices right now is that under current law, existing tax rates are going up a lot january 1st. gerri: right. >> the president says, oh, go back a little bit to clinton's old tax rates, but he's not because clinton's rates affected everyone, not just the small sliver of the population. a 3.8% unearned income tax is kicking in on january 1st. gerri: obamacare. >> capital gains going from 15% to that 25*%. dividend taxes going 15% to 44% under current law without a thing done as far as the president obama wanting the taxes on the rich to go up. he's already done it. there's 1% medicare tax on people who earn over $250,000 a year. gerri: income tax. >> a payroll tax strictly. it's added to the medicare tax that's taken out, makes a small stop in the trust fund, and funds another program that the president likes. this is the problem.
be apple. >>> to washington now. the soap opera we call the fiscal cliff. before we get to our chief washington john harwood and the president is meeting with another grouch ceos, i need to start with eamon javers on capitol hill where lawmakers are skipping down early for a long weekend. eamon, wasn't thanksgiving just a couple weeks ago? >> it was. let me check michael ichaey cal. you see rank and file members of congress leaving the capitol. they are done for the week. they're headed back loam to their hometown districts. a lot of folks focused on this negotiation right now but the reality is that the negotiations are taking place among just a very few, very high level people. i was talking to a few rank and file members yesterday who said they were frustrated there is not a whole lot for them to do, they are just sitting around here waiting for some break-through in these negotiations. they want something to do on the floor, in their offices and there is not much for them to sink their teeth into. now they're going into their district. leadership is going to stay here and continu
that the ramifications of the fiscal cliff, um, will be important. i'm optimistic that we're going to get some leadership in washington that'll actually save us from having to go off that cliff or down that hill, if you will. but i think we are -- there's uncertainty. and whenever there's uncertainty, the market will have less volume in it. liz: tom kloet, good to see you. >> thanks for having me. liz: ceo of the tmx group. david: a u.s. plant right in the heart of canada. they don't realize it yet. [laughter] good to see you. >> thank you. david: well, is now the time to buy apple? a morningstar senior equity analyst thinks so and says some of the blame for the recent decline should fall on washington. why? find out why, coming next. liz: plus, choice hotels expanding its upscale brand right here in america. they must believe that there's a real market here. find out why they're starting three brand new upscale ones at least here in new york. steve joyce, choice hotels ceo and president, joining us after the break. ♪ music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the hea
it down, danielle hughes, ceo of divine capital markets. it's very interesting to me. fiscal cliff or not, china, europe, whatever, the s&p 500 up 12.1% year to date. that is a good year. that is an optimistic year. why is that? >> it seems like we're forgetting about that, doesn't it? with all this talk about what's happening going forward and concern about corporate growth. and truly, we're concerned about corporate growth as well because there really hasn't been that long-term information from our government, from our policyholde policyholders, no economic policy in real investment in assets that we've seen. that's going to be a problem going forward, not to mention the global slowdown, and we're hitting the top of corporate profits now. >> so you don't agree with this. you're turning bearish. >> not bearish in a sense of going forward intermittently. we think that most likely, we're going to see some growth hitting in the second quarter of next year. until we get through this fiscal cliff nonsense, until we see some growth coming out of china and europe, i think that -- >> china i thi
to get on tv and tell us we don't know what we're doing and going over the fiscal cliff and he's real upset and angry and stuff and then the stocks won't go down 10% because of that senator or congressman or that treasury guy and then you get a chance to buy high-quality companies kept down for washington. let's wait for the next gas bag to grab the mike and we'll get them cheaper. in washington, will you please get out of our way? we've got a genuine boom brewing if only washington would rise above and set it free. "mad money" will be right back. >>> coming up -- fueling the future? there's new data out about the positive impact of natural gas on the u.s. economy and employment. could exporting this domestic power be our ticket to a bright future? and how could you hop aboard the trend? tonight, cramer drills down on the issue with dominion resources ceo. >>> and later, agita over apple. while the most coveted gifts, weigh on investors. should you step in now? or is the worst still to come? don't miss cramer's take. >>> plus -- welcome home? you've seen the headlines. the housing mar
: the fiscal cliff is looking more and more like a ticking time bomb. with 28 days left to strike a deal and no sign of a compromise between democrats and republicans, rich edson looking at his watch counting down those days. he is at the white house. rich? >> ashley more of a sign of trouble as the administration finally acknowledge it is will have it do planning just in case of the beginning of these trillion dollars worth of automatic cuts begins in january. the pentagon saying it will start doing short-term planning. before this the pentagon was doing no planning for automatic cuts that begin. the pentagon says it hasn't communicated to defense contractors yet about what to expect. all the folks here say they're just hoping congress and the white house get on the page on some debt deal. what is it comes to the debt deal the president speaking to the business roundtable a couple hours ago saying tax rates must go up on families earning more than $250,000 a year. republicans say they will take $800 billion in more tax revenue from wealthier americans only through closing deductions. th
, that is why we are not getting some of the movement which is movement on the fiscal cliff front or the economic directly saying the upside is warranted. david: they were thinking of apple as utility, something where people were betting on one of the reasons it has come down a lot because a lot of the margin bets made on apple are now disallowed because it is no longer a sure thing. it's what is happening to apple significant for all? >> what i would say is apple is the stock to watch tomorrow.3 there could be some considerations were they move their experiments but the long and short of it is tomorrow apple has closed on its lows. this could be an opportunity, this washed out all of those you just discussed that were leveraged, washing those out and could see tomorrow institutions come in because they would have to be helped. david: nothing is a sure thing. we learned that housing and now with apple. liz: he says watch for a bounce tomorrow, we will see if he is right. david: let's bring in the market panel. he is active etf comanager and the capital market research director. go
worse than going over this ledge. we went off the fiscal cliff when the president got reelected so now we are just bouncing down further and further ledge to ledge. but the thing is for him to say we're going to increase spending let me give away more money, are you kidding? have you gotten more solyndras you haven't thrown away? enough is enough. the leverage we have is the debt ceiling. i'm hoping our leadership is going to bring that to bear. >> many feel the leverage the president has he says look i want to cut taxes or keep taxes where they are for those making $250,000 or less. i want middle class taxes to stay low. but the republics, they won't let that happen. he comes forward with a 1.6 trillion though in new taxes in this new deal. what do you think of that deal and where are you willing to compromise in terms of revenues? >> well, the president we had two years ago basically said and i'm not sure who this one is but the one a couple years ago said it would be insane to raise taxes during a recession. we are still in the recession. we are still 8% basically in on unemployment
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down -- moving down since the middle of the year. the responsibilities on the fiscal cliff -- if the program put in place is more taxes and big spending cuts, which will push us toward a recession, forgive it. and that's what we're getting. more taxes and big spending cuts. so the idea here is this sort of overall concern that the fiscal cliff issue, even if it's resolved, means more austerity. and that's a problem overall for the markets here. take a look, though. we've held up reasonably well in the ism manufacturing. this goes back for the last several years. the big concern here is the trend basically has been down. we've been sideways for a couple months. and now four out of six months showing contraction. in terms of the market, we're still continuing to hold up pretty well. you notice we don't get any real panic here. that's because of the seasonal time of the year, partly. december to january. very big, strong two-month combination. a lot of people try to get in december, ahead of -- beginning of the month buying in january. the news has been manageable in europe. y
. a little pricey, but great. the stock is down 5% today, dagen and connell. dagen: thank you very much. voters seem to favor the president. a new poll shows that 53% trust president obama to avoid the fiscal cliff compared to just 36% for republicans. let's bring in juan williams. he -- is it to make sure the republican take the blame for whatever happens? >> no. i will say this, the reason the president has been out campaigning is to amp up the politicallpressure on republicans and let them feel the heat from the public as a prospect that they would but taxes go up on everyone wheee there is a deal that would keep taxes down for 98% of the public. dagen: what about sticking to their guns? the president said he will not cut a deal without raising taxes on the wealthier americans. maybe they go off a little bit. is that a compromise that both sides would be willing to, well, eat? >> that is exactly the compromise that everyone around washington is discussing. the number that everyone is focusing on is the 37%. you also have, as part of that package, discussions about exactly how much, d
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